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By: Self Analysis « BRAIN DRAIN

Self Analysis « BRAIN DRAIN — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:02:14 +0000

[...] Winterson 2007.09.17 To Michael on Winterson 2007.09.17 To Christine on Winterson 2007.09.23 To Marina on Fight Club, the film 2007.09.23 To the Class Experts on Lyotard 2007.09.29 To Hannah on [...]

By: The end of Fight Club « Postmodernism!

The end of Fight Club « Postmodernism! — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:06:46 +0000

[...] a way her constant fearlessness and freedom also resembled Tyler and who the narrator wanted to be (My blog post). The narrator admits to needing Tyler to get close to Marla in chapter 28 when he says, “I [...]

By: ryancallander

ryancallander — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:17:30 +0000

I like your comment that maybe it was Marla, who helped with the creation of Tyler. The narrator’s life has no freedom and none of the characteristics which Tyler and Marla posess. And while the narrator had the notions of what he wanted his life to be like, it wasn’t until he met Marla that he was able to externalize those thoughts and feelings, and this maybe is what helped him to create Tyler. Tyler would be his Frankenstein. I also agree with your comment that the death of Bob is a turning point in the narrator’s life. It is after Bob dies that the narrator goes quite some time without seeing Tyler. This could be that the narrator blames Tyler for the death of Bob and all that is happening and is upset with Tyler and has no desire to speak with him, thus Tyler does not appear.

By: Kim Clune

Kim Clune — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:57:40 +0000

Hi Marina,

Your post is well reasoned and I very much want to believe the ending is what you say. If I could believe that the narrator no longer needed Marla as a crutch, I would feel far better about the end. To the extent that the narrator becomes whole, I agree. Once Bob dies, the narrator finally identifies with the finality of death that Tyler had known all along. This realization gives him the courage to live as he wishes in the time he has left. But here’s where I feel it gets tricky. The narrator, having fused his dueling identities and reclaimed the traditional masculine qualities, becomes confident, strong, and independent without the need to embrace his crying feminine side any longer. In a world organized linguistically by dichotomies, what does that say about what Marla has become? I can’t help but be bothered that Marla’s strength and independence, odd as it may have been, has shifted back to the more traditional role of subservient woman. She is kidnapped by a bunch of thugs and brought to a fairly vacant, dark room against her will to see a man who has walked all over her for months. Within minutes they hold hands and Marla’s protest silenced as she takes her place along side her “man” to watch the world return to ground zero. It is all very disturbing, if you ask me. In this sense, Marla is still the crutch. First she was a sexual crutch, Tyler’s sport F*@!, and then she “completes” the narrator as his feminine half, the unworthy portion of his psychy that he beat out of himself for the sake of being manly. That “message” nailed my brain to the floor in class and I can’t seem to break free from it. Ew.

By: Christine

Christine — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:58:12 +0000

Okay, you covered so much that I don’t know where to start! First of all, you were smart to watch it again because I definitely think I’d pick up on more if I saw it again since I know how it ends and then I could focus more on the little details. I don’t remember who brought it up in class, but I like the idea that the movie begins and ends with Marla, which is what you also referred to in your blog. She really does seem to be the reason the narrator can no longer function and Tyler comes into his life. I also completely agree with you about how Bob’s death spurned the narrator into realizing that he had to figure out what was going on with Tyler and how he could stop Project Mayhem.

The intricacies of this story/movie blow me away though and I can’t even begin to imagine the attention to detail it took to get it right. I think I need to watch this again to try to put it all together a little more… movie date again sometime? haha

By: Christine

Christine — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:56:59 +0000